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Poster: stbalbach Date: Jan 27, 2010 9:59pm
Forum: texts Subject: Re: The non-profit delusion of ownership

In a general sense I understand and agree with what your saying, in particular when the money can be traced back to government source. Carl Malumad is doing a lot in that area with public.resource.org

I was thinking in this case about Internet Archive as a non-profit and why they have this particular clause about non-commercial use, trying to figure out the logic behind it.

Stephen

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Poster: garthus Date: Jan 28, 2010 5:22am
Forum: texts Subject: Re: The non-profit delusion of ownership

Stephen,

I understand that and also think this thread is a very useful discussion of this topic. I only wish that those at the Archive would be more forthcoming concerning the reasons behind such policies. While I think there may be some useful, (from a legalistic sense), reasons behind such a policy; I am still left with many questions concerning how such policies really apply to documents which are known to be in the Public Domain. I could see such words concerning questionable items; but what I am referring to is the almost wholesale property claims being made by many institutions, merely because they may have digitized a Public Domain Document which is in their possession; since ownership does not change the intellectual status of a Publlic Domain Document; what else could it be?

Gerry

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Poster: stbalbach Date: Jan 28, 2010 10:26am
Forum: texts Subject: Re: The non-profit delusion of ownership

This is true, there is a seeming contradiction between the site license restrictions and the Public Domain status. As you say, it is done elsewhere commonly, like the NY Public Library picture archive, which charges money to use scans of its public domain pictures. There must be some legal foundation for it, perhaps the web site itself is considered copyright - similar to how Penguin Books can copyright a Public Domain book since they added a new cover and notes and introduction.

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Poster: garthus Date: Jan 28, 2010 11:29am
Forum: texts Subject: Re: The non-profit delusion of ownership

Stephen,

They only get away with it because no one has challenged them. I could care less as long as they do not bother us posting those same titles for free. This entrie culture is morphing into a money hungry Grabocracy; and what alarms me the most is that very few people are botherd by this.

Gerry

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